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This morning I am, quite literally, focussed on the future of Newmarket.
I join others who, like me, have clear views on how the Town should develop over the next few decades.
We are one of two self-selected focus groups invited to give the Town our thoughts on how Newmarket should develop and grow.
It is a terrific morning at the Doug Duncan Community Centre with lots of very clued-up people offering valuable insights. I learn a lot.
The omni-present Newmarket Planner, Marion Plaunt, takes us through the process.
First, we get an introduction to the Secondary Plan showing the implications for Newmarket of several possible futures – high growth and low growth.
The figures are startling.
In the Yonge Davis corridor and Southlake (the study area), the population could swell from 1,740 (the 2006 baseline figure) to 4,340 (low estimate) or 27,677 (high) by 2021.
Employment in the same area could rise from 16,218 (2006 baseline) to 22,889 (low) up to 33,604 (high estimate).
We are invited to look way over the horizon to Newmarket in 2051. It is all hugely speculative but fun nevertheless.
Now we divide into workshops and have maps, photos of sundry buildings, highlighters and inky pens. Our job is to recommend appropriate heights and densities and building forms along the Yonge Davis corridors. It is all done at a furious pace with next to no time for reflection.
What did I get out of it all?
There is little enthusiasm for huge Towers. Most people in my workshop seem to think a 15 storey max is about right, but with lower heights predominating along both corridors.
There is a huge amount of scepticism about the transportation modelling showing how the main arterial roads would cope with given volumes of traffic. Long range forecasts showing uncongested roads are greeted with disbelief. In 2012 traffic on these very same roads is already slow moving.
There is a lot of talk in the wider group about the difficulty of getting from A to B by car but next to nothing about the alternatives. We need to think hard about how we develop rapid transit. What are we going to do about the Go Trains – the Puffing Billy train service to Toronto?
I tell everyone the Newmarket to Toronto railway had two tracks until 1987 when one was ripped up in a supreme act of vandalism. I soon as the words are out of my mouth I see a thousand heads shaking. Wrong! (Memo to myself: always double check “reliable” sources.)
Another thing strikes me. There is next to no information on the public ownership of land in the corridors. Clearly, this could shape the way the core develops. Are people working, as we speak, on a new library or, perhaps, a new theatre or some other public institutional use? If so, this should be fed into the debate. And what about new schools and public open space that will be needed to serve the growing population?
And let’s have some decent architecture and a streetscape we can be proud of. Who wants cheap and boring off-the-shelf designs foisted on us by profit hungry developers?
Left to their own devices, the professional planners and the developers (with the acquiescence of many councillors) will always come to some kind of accommodation about the best way forward. That’s the process that gave us the 20 storey condo at Davis and George - without anyone else being aware of what was happening.
We need some kind of standing citizen’s committee (if that doesn’t sound too grand) to keep an eye on them all as the plan unfolds.
Public Information Meeting
There is another Public Information meeting on the Secondary Plan from 7pm-9pm on Wednesday 9 May in the Council Chambers at 395 Mulock Drive. There is a presentation and then a Q&A afterwards.
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- Written by Gordon Prentice
This morning I write to the Editor of the Era Banner.
Newspapers make mistakes all the time. No problem about that.
Dear Mr McFadden
Your article on Slessor Square (Newmarket Condo Shorter, Same Amount of Units. 24 April) contains a serious inaccuracy.
The report asserts that the density of phases II-IV of this controversial development will be determined by the Secondary Plan the town is creating with input from residents.
In fact, the density - that is, the number of people living and working at Slessor - will be decided outside the Secondary Plan process which is now underway.
If people don't want Slessor Square on their doorstep they should speak out now.
Tomorrow may be too late.
Your readers can check www.shrinkslessorsquare.ca for further details
Yours sincerely
Gordon Prentice
Shrink Slessor Square
The Slessor development is important enough for the record to be corrected.
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Newmarket's senior planner with responsibility for the Slessor file, Marion Plaunt, writes:
At the request of the Community Group, the Community meeting Scheduled for May 2, 2012 has been cancelled to provide more time for the community to review and prepare their comments on the proposed revisions to the Slessor application presented at the Community meeting on Monday, April 23, 2012.
The Monday evening power point presentation is attached for your review and comment.
We will aim to reconvene the Community meeting toward the middle to end of May, and you will be informed subsequently of the date and the location.
We look forward to the ongoing dialogue.
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The Era Banner tells me that Slessor Square is to be brought within the Secondary Plan process.
This is hugely significant as the Plan will look at densities (and much else besides) for future development along the Yonge Davis corridors.
Up until now, there was a general assumption that Slessor fell outside the Secondary Plan process because the planning application had been lodged with the Town and was already in the pipeline.
Era Banner reporter, Teresa Latchford, says Newmarket’s senior planner, Marion Plaunt, told the Community Engagement meeting (see below) on Monday evening that, other than phase 1,
the density of the rest of the development will be determined by the urban centres secondary plan the town is creating with input from residents
I was at the meeting and, indeed, blogged about it but I didn’t pick up that golden nugget of information. (You, Prentice, at the back of the class. Pay more attention boy!)
Yesterday, I email Marion and Teresa for clarification.
I am waiting to hear from them.
And all this is happening as the Secondary Plan process moves up a gear with focus groups, organised by the Town, meeting next week (2 May) and again in the following week.
John Taylor
I read Regional Councillor John Taylor’s excellent blog about the Community Engagement meeting.
Taylor stakes out a position and argues for it.
We know where he stands on this crucially important issue.
I hope other councillors will follow his example and let us into their thinking.
Consulting "the community" on Slessor Square
At the Community Engagement meeting on 23 April, Marion Plaunt, the Town’s planner responsible for the Slessor file, announces a follow-up meeting with the developers on Wednesday 2 May at the Ray Twinney complex.
I find myself asking:
What is the point of this meeting so soon after the last one?
And who is going to turn up?
There is little point in rushing things if the developers are still unable or unwilling to put all their cards on the table. To be useful, the developers should be in a position to address traffic and the other outstanding issues – including density.
Seems to me it would be better to wait for the loaf to be fully baked than go ahead with something that is still so obviously half baked.
Slessor Square is a huge development in a very prominent position.
It is an issue for everyone – not just those living in its shadow.
So how do we bring in other groups – within Ward 4 and beyond - who may have an interest?
Seems to me the Town should get the ball rolling by advertising these “Community Engagement” meetings on its website and posting agendas so people know what to expect when they turn up.
This is not spoon feeding community groups. It's giving them a helping hand to get the message across.
And, at some stage, I hope the Town will reconsider its decision to ban YouTube or live streaming of these events, for privacy reasons.
There is no need for conversations about the future of Newmarket to be the best kept secret in town.
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Last night (Monday 23 April) the Slessor Square team unveil their “re-imagined” development to a distinctly underwhelmed audience.
Slessor Square loses height but adds bulk.
We learn the towers will go down to 16 storeys – but the density will stay exactly the same.
In planning lingo this amounts to 832 persons and jobs per hectare where the current standard for this part of town is 200-250.
A member of the audience innocently asks how it is possible for the towers to lose so many storeys without density being affected.
Slessor’s Project Manager, Bob Forrest, puts it this way: “If you step on it, it will squish out at the bottom.”
Regional Councillor, John Taylor, is sceptical.
“If something comes down (in height). I don’t buy it must bulge out.”
But that is precisely what is being proposed.
Bob says: “Our effort has been to address the height issue while maintaining the density.”
(See the presentation on the Town's website by scrolling to "Community Engagement" at the bottom of the page.)
So what else do we learn?
* There will be vehicular access from Yonge Street cutting through the development into George Street. Bob Forrest admits some concern about the impact this may have on people living in the Slessor complex.
* Provision will also be made for road access from the Slessor site to the adjoining sites (the Metro and McIvor Dodge car dealer) which would come into play when these lots are themselves developed in due course.
* The 7 storey retirement residence will be set back, a bit further away from George Street.
* There is still no parkland on the site. The developer pays the Town money in lieu. Pretty standard practice, says Bob.
The four member residents’ group puts in a strong performance:
Bob Bahlieda zeros in on the key issue of density. He says, quite correctly, that the intensification targets for Newmarket can be met at much lower densities.
Bill Chadwick echoes these concerns, fearing that approval for Slessor, as amended, will set a precedent for future developments along Yonge and Davis. He says the density is four times higher than it need be. The planners have no answer to this.
Gail Cunningham has anxieties about how long the construction will take. Would there be pauses between the phases? Bob says his best guess is 7-10 years but “whatever I tell you will, almost certainly, not be right.”
The group’s standard bearer, Anna O’Rourke, has worries about traffic going through the Slessor development and pouring into George Street. Ward 4 councillor Tom Hempen shares her concerns saying he will not support any proposal that puts more traffic onto George Street.
I think he has his work cut out for him on that one.
Now Bob Forrest is fielding questions from the audience, reassuring where possible, side-stepping and stonewalling where necessary.
A resident from Marlin Court – in the shadow of the towers - is told the 16 storey towers will make a difference as they will cast a shorter shadow. Her concerns about vibration from increased traffic on George are not addressed.
Others line up to quiz the developers on a range of concerns.
What about the absence of dedicated public open space?
How genuine are the developer’s much flaunted “green credentials”?
Is the Town serious about protecting residents’ quality of life?
People don’t want Newmarket to become another Richmond Hill.
There is a clear feeling – expressed in a thousand different ways – that the Slessor development is simply too big for the site and it will throw up lots of problems for local people.
And some of the key questions remain unanswered.
We still don’t have a detailed traffic study. And what about the enormous underground car park for 1,200 vehicles?
Bob says there is something on his desk and hints at new thinking.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
What next?
Marion Plaunt, the Town’s senior planner responsible for the Slessor file, announces another meeting on Wednesday 2 May at the Ray Twinney complex. By then, the changes proposed by the developers would be posted on-line.
Seems to me the changes in the configuration of the development are significant enough to warrant a new planning application.
But that’s unlikely.
The great danger is that we could all be ground down by a succession of meetings, meandering discussions and disappearing audiences.
The developers see a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
They will stay the course.
So must we.
15 Storey Height cap
The debate on the proposed 15 storey height cap for new developments in Newmarket has now been pushed back to Monday 22 May 2012.
Regional Councillor John Taylor asked for a report to be prepared by planning staff back in February.
Taylor said last night a height cap would “provide clarity for the development industry”.
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